81:14 “Liberty is a special value and the reason that is a special value is there really two ways to delineate it - you can be 𝐭𝐞𝐜𝐡𝐧𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝐟𝐫𝐞𝐞 but not really free, right, if you're concerned about being wiped out by a health care crisis, or you're concerned that you may lose your job and have to find another in a different industry, you're not really free. Even if technically, you could go out and start an oil company - it's not going to happen. So, what we argue is that 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐲, realized liberty, is liberty you can act on. In order for a person to be liberated, their more mundane concerns - their safety, their sustenance, all those things have to be taken care of. And therefore, we can know that we have succeeded when somebody has real liberty that they are capable of acting on it. It’s a proxy. What we argue is that the objective ought to be to provide 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐥 𝐥𝐢𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐲 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐬 𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐲 𝐩𝐞𝐨𝐩𝐥𝐞 𝐚𝐬 𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞. Hopefully, ultimately everyone would be liberated to do something truly remarkable, rather than only elites having that freedom. I guess I would just say, “𝐚𝐬 𝐡𝐢𝐠𝐡 𝐚 𝐟𝐫𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐨𝐩𝐮𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐬 𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞”, if we say, “as many people as possible” it might sound like we're also interested in maximizing population growth and of course, you know we're not. I think we will peak, hopefully, at some point soon and then population may start going down through attrition. But at every moment in human history, going forward, the vast number of the greatest number of people possible who have maximal liberty will be a success. Let me just refine that slightly, the objective is the maximum number of liberated people but not living simultaneously. Ultimately the way to grant the marvelous liberated life to the maximum number of people is to get 𝐬𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐛𝐥𝐞 at the level that humans can live indefinitely on the planet, rather than having a clock ticking where we just simply don't have the resources to continue doing what we're doing."
Often the way to create a synthesis is in looking at a conflict from a higher vantage point. Those who want liberty may be willing to sacrifice wellbeing. Those who want wellbeing may be willing to sacrifice liberty. But when you look at the value conflict from a higher vantage point, you realize that unbalanced freedom betrays its own values, just as unbalanced wellbeing betrays its values. The synthesis becomes possible when wellbeing is included in the definition of freedom, and freedom included within the definition of wellbeing.